Response to COB attacks........
NEWSFLASH:
We, and our Deli, have recently come under very intense hate-filled assaults from posters ( im-posters ) at www.cityofbrownwood.com . Those involved in this FRAUD, in some capacity include JOHN IVY ( Aka The Tech or whoever he decides to post as at the moment ! ), his family ( immediate & extended ?) & LANDMARK LIFE of Brownwood and others yet to be identified (hoot_baker, hyphenated american, etc. @ COB). The attacks ( see terrorism as you follow links ) have included FOOD POISONING rumors targeting our Deli ( as well as Underwoods and Skillets ) and other personal attacks that include venemous gay bashing
For background information please read this
1 ) Someone assumed my name to post a diatribe against KXYL on COB site (November 18 2004 : 07:45:34) . I have never posted at the COB website. We have our own website ( you know if you’re reading this ) and blog which we use to express our opinions and post news stories w/links. We do not have to hide behind an alias ! I was informed by John Ivy that the same computer was used to make a post inviting people to listen to KXYL Talk Radio. This was our first smell of COB ! This tactic smelled like the tactic of KXYL since they use employees to call in in disguise ( often not very good ! ) to stir the pot ! It’s highly possible, if not probable, that an internal COB anomyous poster (ie: Hoot_baker or Hyphenated American, etc.) would be used to stir the pot for COB. Maybe John Ivy will re-display the KTAB report of the fraud going on at the COB website that I spoke to in my interview ! The only issue I spoke to with KTAB reporter Taylor Hemness was the fraud issues at COB. By the way, my name was not the only name to be used frauduantly at COB. A very prominent Brownwood Doctor also had his name used frauduantly on John Ivy's website during this same period. How does that happen John ?
Note: When we began investigating the COB website for ownership ( * their deception made it very difficult ! we tried the phone # (no luck), we searched the phone book for the name registered ( no luck ), and we could not find a 411 here st in Brownwood ( does anyone know where 411 here street is ? ) ! and after sending emails to the listed addresses on the COB site we began a computer trace ! ) Since the website involved the City of Brownwood name we went to Brownwood City Attorney, Pat Chesser, to speak with him about the issue. My problem was not with the name of the site (that was Mary's) but with the fradulant posts ( ID Theft which John Ivy allowed ! ) being made in my name. With the help of friends we were able to trace the computer that was being used to administer the COB site. The computer trace was tracked to a computer at Landmark Life (see below). At our request, Pat Cheser, called Landmark Life and asked Tom Munson if the Computer used to adm. COB was indeed a Landmark Life Computer. Tom Munson asked Pat Chessier how we traced it back to them ! We found that odd !
*
Domain Name: CITYOFBROWNWOOD.COM
Reseller..............: PlanetDomain
Created on............: 15 Jun 2002 00:00:00 EST
Expires on............: 14 Jun 2005 00:00:00 EST
Record last updated on: 15 Jun 2004 00:00:00 EST
Status................: ACTIVE
Owner, Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Concerned Citizens
cheri umowski (ID00027811)
411 here st
brownwood, TX 76801
United States
Phone: +325.4510591
Email: brownwoodsite@cityofbrownwood.com
OrgName: LANDMARK LIFE INSURANCE
OrgID: LLI-10
Address: 5750 S COUNTY ROAD 225
City: BROWNWOOD
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 76801
Country: US
Comment:
RegDate: 2003-04-19
Updated: 2003-04-19
AdminHandle: JIV2-ARIN
AdminName: Ivy, John
AdminPhone: +1-915-646-6579
AdminEmail: john@landmarklife.com
TechHandle: JIV2-ARIN
TechName: Ivy, John
TechPhone: +1-915-646-6579
TechEmail: john@landmarklife.com
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-11-30 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
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2 ) It’s been very apparent that we have been the target of anomyous ( internally or externally ? ) posters at COB on a regular basis. Below is a recent example of a COB poster noticing the same tactic being employed:
baffled and bewildered
Newbie
20 Posts
Posted - August 10 2005 : 11:30:19
I realize that I am relatively new to this site; however, I did notice, right away, all the Steves' Market and Deli bashing. From people starting food poisoning rumors, to people complaining about the chicken salad with the ''alleged" raisins. As for the blog... I don't see anything wrong with it. Steve takes complete responsibily for what is on it. As far as I can tell, nothing is falsified. As for opinions, that is what they are - opinions. I would assume that Steve takes responsibility for what he says, since he puts his name on his comments. So, here's a thought for you, Hoot. If you do not like being quoted, using your fictional persona, perhaps you should tell Steve so. Of course, in order to do that, you would have to come out from behind your big boobs.
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3) Regarding the post that was made regarding our Deli. The original post stated “ Food poisening at Steve’s Deli “. It was then changed to read “ Posible Food Poisening at Steve’s Deli ”. The post and thread was allowed to remain and be discussed. Danomyte ( a Watts Communication employee ?) made a post implicating Underwoods and Skillets as being “probable” purveyors of food Poisening. The thread was pulled later in the day as it now involved two very prominent families in Brownwood ! Did this thread get out of control ? Below are the posts that we captured from COB regarding this attack against our Deli. A note of thanks to several of the posters at COB who saw through the BS ! Did the Underwoods or Howeys make contact with John Ivy ( COB Administrator ) ? We consider these attacks to be much more than someone complaining about our food, our salads, or our grapes ( as was implied by a few of the COB im-posters ) !
Here's the posts that were made at COB that we referred to in the above writing:
Hyphenated-American
Junior Member
54 Posts
Posted?-?July 28 2005?:? 09:26:04
Did anybody else hear about 2 or 3 people getting food poisoning at Steve's last week? I heard about it at work. I wonder if the health dept. ever inspects this place.
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Danomyte
VIP Member
362 Posts
Posted?-?July 28 2005?:? 10:23:58
Like Food Poisening?wouldn't stop me?from eating somewhere. I've probably had food poisening from Underwoods, Skillets, several times...but I'm still gonna get my BBQ ribs and hot rolls and cobbler...and I'm still gonna have that late night Skillets run.?
And having some ties to the News Media, I have yet heard any official reports of Food Poisening anywhere...if I hear anything...it will be in the news.
"Valhalla waits for those who dare to dream." Mathom
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Here's John Ivy's Post
admin
777 posts
Posted?-?July 28 2005?:? 11:51:28
I have gone to several resteraunts and either left fealing ill or soon after leaving, usually this because of my own fault by overeating. LOL
Uless it can be sttrbuted to one particular item of food or Day in question where all the patrons got severly ill I would not suspect food poisoning. Now if you said Skillets I would be more inclined to believe it.
"Do Not Feed The Bears"
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As it relates to the Terrorists at the COB Website:
" Experts also worry that terrorists might try to spread false rumors about unsafe foods via the mass media or the Internet."
source: http://cfrterrorism.org/security/agriculture_print.html
" They had no apologies for telling lies, spreading false rumors and immorally tricking their less well financed opponents. "
source: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=spreading+false+rumors+about+restaurant+food+poisoning&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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....and according to posts at COB, John Ivy has a problem with our cut and paste ( like above ). I would link the source for you like I normally do in my other posts, but Ivy has employed a Nuclear round of deleteing threads and posts over at COB where the above comments were made ! Is massive dumping of threads and posts equivilant to massive shredding of documents ?
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Now, Here's how we speak about other hard working folks and their restaurants. Notice the difference ?
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4) It’s been obvious that we have been the target of numerous anomyous posters at COB. It’s also obvious that COB has major issues of fraud and allowing Pornography to be posted for display to the entire community ( What kind of *"Concerned Citizens" are they ? *see their registry above. How do you allow Porn to be posted to a site that you “control” ? The same way that Brownwood Hate Radio allows anything to be said on the air ( no time delay switch ! ). It’s called unaccountability by the owner(s) ! Note that it is John Ivy who has been the one to implicate Howard Payne University in the Porn equation !
Below is the post made by COB ADM JOHN IVY regarding Hoot_baker:
RESPONSE TO SLANDER BY HOOT @ CITYOFBROWNWOOD.8M.COM
Final Word!
In response to Hoot_Bakers assault on me and on the users of this site, I will validate the statement that it was Hoot_Baker later in the Post. I will not respond to further baiting and jabs by HOOT after this.
First Off I have not posted on his site, Either as Guest or Registered User, Pull your damn logs and check for yourself Hoot. If any COB User has then I will appologize for them and ask them not to do it again. Hoot you have posted much worse than the Pic I saw on your site, Can we talk about the Post you made from Howard Payne University at say, around 1:00am in the morning while the University is on Break. Must be or have been nice to work nights and have access to the University Network. I don't know if they still have night personell during the semester or not.
COPY FROM HIS SITE!
NOTICE: The admin of that site DOES read your private messages. I proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. I sent 2 PMs to 2 different people and the next day, they were used in the admin's public assault on this site. You might want to keep that in mind when he goes on record saying he DOESN'T do it.
Today After noticing someone started playing the name game with what could be construde as Steve Harris's Identity, I emailed Steve and let him know what has transpired and who was doing what, I alerted him to the other site's existence. I also let him know that upon removing One user and soon to be the other, I archived their PM's just in case JTF wanted to get into the legal battles he threatend us with so many times. Upon doing so The system flagged an Anti-Gay message and a link to a doctored Photo sent From Hoot to JTF. Though it was not criminal in nature and not a threat upon any one persons life I went ahead and gave the link to Steve as it portratited him and his business. I never said going to there site will give you a virus, I merely advised of lots of possibilities and security precautions by going to a site that has no accountability and no system to deal with such threats. The big boys Yahoo and MSN will provide you with the same warnings if you bother to read the disclaimers they have. Yes Hoot even they have systems to try and protect the users but they are not 100% perfect. NO ACCOUNTABILITY = NO SECURITY.
Last night, the admin made a distateful public post on this site's forum spoofing Steve Harris's name HIMSELF. The post is still there to see.
PLEASE!, Put up or ShutUP Hoot, Last night I did what, LAst night I played enemy territory for 4 hours straight and yes I can prove that as I play on a TWL CLAN LEAGUE SERVER(tracks player stats and tournament positions). As with the Steve Posts made On this site I could track them back to the Entity they came from. In fact the night the steve posts were made here so where 3 other from the same IP, with 3 different UserNames. Just as you have a couple different User names here HOOT. I had the log entry copied and sent to the people involved. Since you accuse me can you go ahead and send me you log entry. If you are going to blame everything on me I guess I better take JTF's lead and get the lawyers ready too.
Something that is even funnier is this morning while typing my email to Steve after reading the post it said "ITS A CONSPIRACY BY ALL THE GAYS IN BROWNWOOD, LIKE THE DELI AND BATHHOUSE PEOPLE THAT JTF TOLD ME ABOUT." now it appears that You have taken it upon yourself to have the word GAY changed to 'steve harris'. It now reads "ITS A CONSPIRACY BY ALL THE steve harrisS IN BROWNWOOD, LIKE THE DELI AND BATHHOUSE PEOPLE THAT JTF TOLD ME ABOUT" and look closely, the whole message is caps except for the words injected by yourself HOOT. Get a life......
I have drafted a letter and will have the attorney that handles my site send it certified to PROBOARDS and the IMAGE/FILE REPOSITORY where the Image of Steves Deli is housed requesting their logs as it pertains to the accusations made on your site and the deflamation of the business of STEVES MARKET AND DELI.
I have already contacted the Adminstrative contacts in order that they can secure the PAGES and IMAGES in question in case altered before they can be reviewed. I don't think the Brown County Republican Party will much care for there pictures being used in the light that you have cast them in also. BTW YOUR FORUMS ALSO TRACK THE CHANGES TO THE POSTS, the person I talked with said if the post was changed by the Moderator or Admin it will show this in their system logs as well as the logged IP of the user. I will get the logs as certified by the hosting company even if it means forking out the money for a subpoena, It is a matter of principle now!
GOOD BYE HOOT!
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So I read this and emailed John:
-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Puckett/Steve Harris [mailto:steve_squared@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 06:03 PM
To: johni@landmarklife.com
Subject:
Do you know the identities of just the facts and hoot_baker ?
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John's response to my email............
From: johni@landmarklife.com
Subject: RE:
Date: August 16, 2005 7:03:22 PM CDT
To: steve_squared@verizon.net
JTF is Joe Cooksey, Hoot Baker I believe worked as a security guard at HPU
during the summer, I believe this to be true for the following reason.
One night at around 1:00 am a picture of 3 mature gay ggays in lude sexual
acts was posted, I was called by 2 users at around 2:00 am alerting me to it
on the site. I removed it and saved the logs so I could find out who did it.
I cross referenced the POSTers IP with the USERNAMES and all the IP's they
ahve ever used to connect to the site with. It turns out that it was HPU
network IP, It also turned out the only other user with the IP associated to
there name was Hoot_Baker. I immiediatly blocked all OF HPU by 5:00 AM I
had a main page INFORMATIONAL posted saying that I blocked HPU and the
reason in vivid detail why they were blocked. Before LunchTIme the next day
I got a call at work, This gentleman claiming to have no association to the
site said HOTT was a friend of his and told him about my message. He was
afraid he would loose his job if the admin thought that it was him because
he worked nights as the security guard at HPU, he claimed it could be any of
the summer camp kids or something but not him. During the Time HPU was
blocked we did not hear from HOOT again until recently when I opened HPU
back up. I ahve the phone call on dictaphone here at Landmark I will try and
dig it up for you if you like. I really don't care for this new game he is
playing posting his own foolishness and pointing the finger at me.
I wrote you to let you know what was happening and what I know about it. I
can give you copies of all his posts or PM's that I managed to save that
show his deep hatred for GAYS and that LIFESTYLE. HOOT and his other
Identity have seemed to try and bring the Deli and your assumed lifestyles
into question every chance he got. I have defended the persons right to be
themselves on every occassion whether I agree with the lifestyle or not I
feel it is the persons given right to live life the way they want to. I
don't like peas but I don't hate anybody who does............
I am sure Mary might have alerted you to the other posts started against the
deli and such, I have tried to do roght by you since we had the very first
phone conversation. I remove and blocked your name from posts as often as I
could catch it. I will try and get logs and subscriber information from teh
free server hosts and probaords host he is using. With out legal influence
it may prove to be difficult.
John Ivy
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Question: Is the below Russell S Hall a HPU Security Guard who John Ivy Claims, in his emial above, knows Hoot_baker & Hyphenated-American ? Russell seems to know alot about COB site and posters ! Does he also blame the posts on the kids ? Is he a part of cityofbrownwood.8m.com ? Is Shayne Holland ?
--- RUSSELL S HALL
To: info@stevesmarketanddeli.com
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 20:25:52 -0500
Subject: your blog
From: RUSSELL S HALL
Steve,
You are quoting posts from the cityofbrownwood.com site and are naming
Shane H. in some quotes and I would appreciate it if you would spell his name correctly (Shayne) and his last hame is
Holland. Shane is my middle name and as you can see from my email, my last name begins with H.
Anyway, Shayne doesn't post under Shane H. He posts under "Shayner". I just don't want my name associated with anything on that site. Most of my family and friends call me by my middle name, which is Shane.
Thanks
RSH
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5) We hope John Ivy, ADM of www.cityofbrownwood.com, will work with HPU officials to unmask Hoot_baker and the others, since he was the one that implicated Howard Payne. We have requested a meeting with HPU officals and John Ivy for next week to lay the charges out on the table and for John to play the tape of his phone call. Contrary to what John Ivy has posted "This is an attempt by Steve to get the site shut down", I am simply following the leads that John Himself has given me in an attempt to identify the person(s) who have maligned us and our business.
6) In closing, we have noticed these facts at COB:
For their own stated reasons, COB ran a Brownwood Gay Poll attempting to get a count of Brownwood Gays ! Baiting a trap ?
John Ivy has often threatened to turn COB into a Gay Porn Site !
Gay Bashing seems to be one of the driving forces behind COB, very similar to KXYL.
John Ivy, and the COB website that has been administered from Landmark Life ( are Tom Munson, Terry Wilson & Putter Jarvis aware of this ?), on more than one occasion, has given us enough indicators to remain doubtful and ask questions ! Hopefully, key parts of this mystery will be solved in the upcoming meeting between John, HPU officials, and myself !
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Here's my email to HPU officials requesting a meeting.
From: steve_squared@verizon.net
Subject: regarding John Ivy Allegations
Date: August 19, 2005 5:56:29 PM CDT
To: mjones@hputx.edu
Mike, I would like to meet with you, Dr Hall, John Ivy and HPU's computer person some time next week in hopes of tracking down the poster allegations from John Ivy implicating HPU computers being used to post PORN at COB. I believe if we are all in the room together, we might be able to get to the bottom of the allegations. Let me know when we can meet. Anytime after 3pm works for me.
Regards,
Steve Harris
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Note to Michael at COB, I am in no way working to stifle free speech ( working for accountability in false posts is the goal ). John Ivy is/was administering a board (COB) which has allowed Porn and Food Poisoning lies to be posted. I've previously been communicating with John Ivy and the HPU Administration to "unmask" the im"poster" since John Ivy has implied the similarities of the posters coming out the the HPU Network ( porn and making false posts regarding our Deli ! ) Had the ADM/Owner of the COB site registered their site with correct contact information in the first place, I would have never been forced to do a computer trace to make contact with the owner/adm at the location (Landmark Life) the computer was traced to !
Here's the latest..............( why was it erased at John Ivy's former/current? website COB )
Domain Name: CITYOFBROWNWOOD.COM
Registrar: PRIMUS TELCO PTY LTD DBA PRIMUSDOMAIN/PLANETDOMAIN
Whois Server: whois.planetdomain.com
Referral URL: http://www.planetdomain.com
Name Server: NS8.LANDMARKLIFE.COM
Name Server: NS9.LANDMARKLIFE.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 28-jun-2005
Creation Date: 14-jun-2002
Expiration Date: 14-jun-2006
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Here's the latest after todays (08.23.2005) meeting with HPU Officials. The taped call which John Ivy has alledged came from HPU does not match with John Ivy's email to me and to HPU officials. This is what John Ivy's email said:
" Before LunchTIme the next day I got a call at work, This gentleman claiming to have no association to the site said HOTT was a friend of his and told him about my message. He was afraid he would loose his job if the admin thought that it was him because he worked nights as the security guard at HPU, he claimed it could be any of the summer camp kids or something but not him."
The alledged HPU caller (Security Guard?) never said in the taped conversation *sent to me and HPU Administrators "HOTT was a friend of his" !
It's not adding up ! We compared John's email to the Landmark Life Dictaphone tape (that Ivy emailed to HPU officials) today and this omission is apparent. (* Was forwarded to me by HPU Officials.)
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" He showed pathological lying habits and was in denial when challenged on his prejudices and biases. He would even deny saying something he just said 30 seconds ago. He was famous for that. . . ."
source: http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug05/Goldsmith0822.htm
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